The Problem with Codependent Relationships in Business
At a recent comment, Harvey Lloyd of all these science-defying individuals who still maintain a medieval view of our planet. Since the cracks of this social network have started to become evident to more people, there has been a rise of alternative platforms that have privacy at their core. So, their codependent relationship scam doesn’t seem to pass the test of time. Or, as Abraham Lincoln put it more eloquently, “you can fool some people all the time, you can fool all the people some of the time, but you can’t fool all the people all of the time.” Cheers.
You can fool some people all the time, you can fool all the people some of the time, but you can’t fool all the people all of the time.
Abraham Lincoln
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CityVP Manjit
3 anni fa #20
This brings us back to the role of influencers - and why Milos Djukic gets mad with them the same way I do. Every single day I see this lowering of the reading age in posts that we know are designed as eye candy, making it easy for an audience sucked in by simple ideas to feel like they are a part of the conversation. This agreement with things that we already know is perplexing and more so is the sycophantic responses, as if the often simplistic words of the influencer is like the second coming of Plato and Socrates. The more eye candy of a simple quote gets in the way of what we would deem as informed, the more we create an etiquette of easy pleasing thinking. The social media guns come out the moment we begin to point this out, and the defensive reactions against calling this out is astonishing in its insecure defense.
Harvey Lloyd
3 anni fa #19
I struggle with words like trust and informed public. In a very information soaked environment these words take on different meanings for everyone. One key point of evolution is that behavior has now become the leading input into these two words. Not actions. A=True + B true=Then C must be true also. The world is largely water (A) + Humans need air to breath (B)=, therefore everyone should wear a life jacket all the time (C). A simple example but given the human dynamic is a story waiting to be written by someone. Trust and informed is at the individual level. If i were to become a part of your social circle, locally, we could build trust and be informed about each other. Beyond that i am stuck with a narrative that is presented through social media. Bullet points of another human.
Harvey Lloyd
3 anni fa #18
What is the "Job Description" of a human? A entity that exists with independent thought, within a group that shares risk in community success. How you answer this question determines the focus/purpose of storytelling. I want to grow my own wisdom so that i can support my community in their growth, i want to bring value within my story. Or; What can i take from the community by means of diverting assets in my direction via story telling. When i look at branding the very fundamental aspect of every story, is for me to act in a way that is advantageous to the brand story. This is the purpose. But this also applies to every story told. The story has purpose or in my world behavior. If the human job description includes me loving my neighbor then the purpose of my story is built around that axiom. Second to that is my need for customers, social groups or community. My story should promote, encourage and engage my neighbor in dialogue that causes them to consider perspectives beyond their own story. Not agreement but rather discourse that each can learn and gain wisdom. Every story has a purpose. Stories of old were targeted at growing human wisdom, where today it is for manipulation of emotions and divisive towards a desired action.
Zacharias 🐝 Voulgaris
3 anni fa #17
Indeed. That's why for topics that are overly technical, like Artificial General Intelligence (AGI), I prefer to write novels to tackle them...
CityVP Manjit
3 anni fa #16
Rather than focusing on an inability to separate fact from fiction, we need to get better fact and even better at fiction. In the age of reason we have focused as a society on trying to get better at facts. Yet storytelling is a much deeper social form, and it behooves us to reconnect to the lost arts of storytelling or expressed in a different way "fiction that matters". I have placed quotation marks around that because I think it is a really key insight. The damage weaponization does is not something we control but understanding storytelling can - and it really is up to us whether this understanding makes us wiser citizens of the 21st Century or whether the skills we learn turn us into the very problem we have identified, i.e. nuclear power can be used to create clean energy or it can be used to destroy. We might not individually be able to tame the narrative that is weaponized but we can emerge out of this wiser. The important point for me of recognizing either the weaponization of marketing or the weaponization of narrative (hence media) is to move in a direction that seems counter-intuitive. This direction is away rather than towards the fires these acts of weaponization create. Instead my own response is to find more people who can explain the mythos and function of story. One example I just found is a piece from Liberty Nation called "Weaponized Narrative And The Gilgamesh Epic" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iAKJWG85jnc - this video is not adding to the fire, it is telling us how this fire can get started and that it has been burning a very long time and that the abject reality of modern political narrative is not new to history, it simply reminds us that we get so sidetracked by the fire of present weaponization, that we end up thinking fiction is the enemy of fact. Both prose and the poetic are worthy of appreciation because they underpin the superior skills of narrative.
Zacharias 🐝 Voulgaris
3 anni fa #15
An independent journalist, James Corbett, talked about this on his podcast (Corbet Report). He used the term "weaponization of narrative" which although more generic, it drives home the point. Perhaps the problem is not with FB or any other digital dictatorship but our inability to discern fact from fiction. That's why we have the divide you mentioned between the informed and the mass population, or the thinks and think-nots dichotomy. Cheers
CityVP Manjit
3 anni fa #14
Harvey Lloyd
3 anni fa #13
Yes, i am in agreement. I want to hear all opinions. (Everything has limits at the extreme) Unfortunately any real news is now on the second and third tier of resources. All mainstream media is less fact and more opinion. Great discussion. Would love to sit a table with a couple of beers and go at these topics, fascinating.
Harvey Lloyd
3 anni fa #12
If you really wish to consider the troubles with branding you have nailed it with this comment. Branding presents dichotomy's of belief. This on the surface is not bad, but what makes it bad is when a single entity has control over the narrative. We see almost all media has a liberal bent. The tenants of their concerns are valid, the expense of what they seek to achieve the goal is the concern. Who or what, considering AI, should have point in our final decisions concerning moral issues. Sciences/politics are coming to their conclusive ends. They knock at the door of morality to present their cause. We are seeing this unfold within the current shutdown of whole countries. The dichotomy presented by the powers that be vs the dichotomy of decisions john q citizens are left with in their self reliance. Doesn't matter the side one finds themselves, we can all admit the choice is being presented from this perspective. A choice is fomenting between two very disparate groups. Who is right? Well history will answer that question.
Zacharias 🐝 Voulgaris
3 anni fa #11
Just to clarify, the "medieval view of our planet" was a reference to the Flat Earth movement. Apparently, Facebook is fine with that. Try saying anything on that SM about even the possibility that Covid-19 is greatly exaggerated and that other, more effective measures to counter-act it should be in place and your posts will vanish in thin air. I don't know that first-hand since I've given up on FB a long time ago, but I've heard such stories from various sources. Cheers
Ali Anani
3 anni fa #10
Interesting if you would explain more your very interesting comment
Zacharias 🐝 Voulgaris
3 anni fa #9
I have a feeling that this post-based discourse is what Javier \ud83d\udc1d CR and his team had in mind when they designed this SM! :-)
Harvey Lloyd
3 anni fa #8
Zacharias 🐝 Voulgaris
3 anni fa #7
Perhaps not any given brand on its own is harmful. However, I can think of one exception. The fact that I don't call it by name goes on to show that 1) that would be unwise, at least on a personal level, and 2) I may have a codependent relationship with that brand. Still, I firmly believe that a big chunk of the world's problems would be eradicated if that brand seized to exist. Cheers
Ali Anani
3 anni fa #6
Harvey Lloyd
3 anni fa #5
The codependency is subtle. Any given brand it is not really so harmful. But what happens in the mind of a human when multiple brands are placed on our emotional catalog and they begin to compete against each other? Keep in mind what portion of the brain we are competing in, monkey brain. Given a big enough catalog and a fire storm of confirmation bias appears only to stabilize ourselves into a clear concise focus. Unfortunately the confirmation is all about various brands that have placed competing thoughts about various deep emotional topics within our psych. Will giving the world a Coke really bring about world peace? Will i really die in any other automobile other than a Subaru? Right now our emotions are being pulled in every direction from branding and politics. We can give in and choose a path based on this barrage of branding or................We can stand up and say that i am an economy of one, a father/mother, a leader and i must choose from the facts i know, the right direction. Write your own narrative. Lets just say my narrative does not include a Subaru and both of my children got home from the hospital just fine.
Harvey Lloyd
3 anni fa #4
Ali Anani
3 anni fa #3
It is an obligation to share posts that speaks to the minds my friend.
Zacharias 🐝 Voulgaris
3 anni fa #2
You are right, my friend. I like the prey-predator metaphor. It's quite accurate. Also, thank you for the share. Much appreciated!
Ali Anani
3 anni fa #1